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Jason Goroncy

Frank. You may be interested in this: http://cruciality.wordpress.com/2009/04/06/the-stations-of-the-cross/

beth

There is certainly now a greater diversity of images of Jesus reflecting different cultures and historical periods than the uniform aryan portrait of my childhood.Still the great majority of images of Jesus are either as an adult or newborn, and so rarely at any stage of childhood or adolescence. I realise this reflects the portraits of the gospels. Is there validity in images of Jesus as a growing child or adolescent, or is this beyond the scope of the gospels' prompts? Your invitation for us to think about Jesus living (not only dying or dead) exercises my imagination a great deal. A living Jesus is a growing Jesus. In what sense can this be?

Simon Clemow

Hi Frank. I have a rather large collection of image of Jesus that I have collected over the years on my lap top. If they are of use to you, I could post them across. Likewise I did a DVD reflection on images of Jesus for worship on Good Friday - you are welcome to that if you'd like. Grace and Peace.

Frank Rees

Thanks for these comments, Beth and Simon. It's good to hear from you.
Beth, I agree that our depictions of Jesus are so limited. As you say, we picture him either as a newborn, or adult, and as I wrote, mostly the latter is of him dying.
We need a much wider array of images to help us recognize the full and real humanity of Jesus. So I think we need to think of and see him playing, up a tree, swimming in the local pond, or drinking a fizzy drink with mates. Would we ever imagine Mary or Joseph changing his nappy? The adolescent Jesus, cutting timber in Joseph's workshop, or hanging out with a few mates, and perhaps a few girls too: these images may need to be culturally interpreted, historically. But they would help us to have a sense of the real person, as you say growing, and sharing the reality of our lives.
There's more to this: first, there is the challenge of whether we think Jesus really had to grow and learn. I wrote about this some time ago: lots of people find the learning bit hard ... Then, too, there is the question of whether we find it helpful, and if so why, to focus on the real humanity of Jesus. Why is this significant for us, and why is it not for some others of us? Lots of interesting issues there.

Frank Rees

Simon, I am grateful for the offer. Yes, I would really enjoy seeing your DVD. Is it too large a file to send electronically? Otherwise, maybe yes, snail mail please ....
I appreciate the contributions.

beth

...yes it's a valuable human-Jesus question, but also I ask - is the aspect of growing appropriate in our vision of God. When Moltmann speaks of the openness of God in terms of future, I wonder if it can connect with the qualities of growing that we understand to be a criterion of 'living'?

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